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Poster: IndigoBlue Date: Aug 16, 2012 5:45pm
Forum: audio Subject: "DWTKenInNY" Uploads to Community Audio copyrighted?

After running into a copyright claim after using a supposedly CC licensed item (following the CC license permissions as specified) uploaded by "DWTKenInNY", I ran a check on some of the hundreds of items uploaded into the Community Audio area by "DWTKenInNY". All that I checked are copyrighted, listed for sale at Amazon, etc.... yes, I know... should have done that before using the item I downloaded. :/

I did post a review two days ago under the item I had downloaded: http://archive.org/details/DelibesLakmeActIFlowerDuetsutherlandBerbie

advising "DWTKenInNY" of the copyright infringement notice I'd received & to let me know if there was a possibility that s/he had inadvertently uploaded an item that was under copyright - sent a copy to the Internet Archive via email to the address they give in their copyright section... no response from either so far.

Just posting here to let people know what happened to me, because I didn't exercise due dilligence & check thoroughly that supposed CC item BEFORE downloading & sharing it, in the hope this doesn't happen to anyone else. Also my concerns for the site itself if there is a lot of copyright material slipping through... the media corporations don't like anything, anywhere, any org that freely shares wonderful media such as we have here & they've been very aggressively working on getting even such legitimate places as the Internet Archive shut down. ):

Oh well, off to get all traces of that audio taken down from my use of it...

Indigo Blue

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Poster: jasonarchive Date: Aug 24, 2012 8:04pm
Forum: audio Subject: Re: 'DWTKenInNY' Uploads to Community Audio copyrighted?

Thanks for the headsup Indigo.

I was looking at some of DWTKenInNY's uploads last week, classical music pieces, and was considering using one for a work that I am producing.

I am curious though - how did the claimant discover that you were using the piece? It would seem that with the massiveness of the internet it would be like locating a needle in a haystack...

Cheers,
Jason.

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Poster: IndigoBlue Date: Aug 24, 2012 9:23pm
Forum: audio Subject: Re: 'DWTKenInNY' Uploads to Community Audio copyrighted?

Glad to hear you checked before using it, was the piece you were considering under copyright?

As far as copyright holders locating materiel they hold licences for, I researched that after completely deleting the piece I'd used. Apparently the major copyright holders (who are legion! Unbelievable the huge numbers of corp's, org's & conglomerates in the copyright biz & the amount of media they're laying claim to. :( ) have "footprint" &/or "fingerprint" bots that ceaselessly sniff out anything on the web that matches up to their footprint records - even a tiny portion of a piece.

As a consequence of what happened I'm now only using sites that are strictly for CC licensed original works only & it's the artists themselves who do the uploading. Jamendo, ccMixter, etc. And, by doing a lot of browsing & listening, I'm finding some super music, including classical BTW, by some excellent artists. Ensuring whatever one uses on the web conforms with the type of CC license the artist has put on their work of course. Every artist on Jamendo has a web site link so you can ensure the CC license is their's as well as ask for any special permissions of use if needed. Downloading for free & enjoying & sharing is encouraged - I've already D/L 2 Gigs!!

Still a huge Supporter of the Internet Archive of course, just now know to be very cautious with CC uploads here.

Good luck with your production.
Cheers!
Indigo

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Poster: jasonarchive Date: Aug 26, 2012 3:55am
Forum: audio Subject: Re: 'DWTKenInNY' Uploads to Community Audio copyrighted?

Thanks Indigo for the feedback, it's very helpful!

I had a look at Jamendo and ccMixter, but they didn't have the song I was after (Mozart K.384). Any other sites you'd suggest?

Thanks a bunch :)
Jason

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Poster: IndigoBlue Date: Aug 26, 2012 12:53pm
Forum: audio Subject: Re: 'DWTKenInNY' Uploads to Community Audio copyrighted?

Glad to hear I was helpful, makes a nice change.

This copyright business is completely beyond reason when music written centuries before replicating anything was possible can now be copyright protected every time an artist chooses to perform it! I innocently used a movement from Saint-Saëns' 1886 suite "The Carnival of the Animals" in a video - to date seventeen music corp's are claiming copyright! I suspect Mozart would be very annoyed about 'the suits' owning his music. Sorry... Ranting again... :)

Okay... Sites... http://soundcloud.com/ http://www.newgrounds.com/ [looks like an unlikely place 'cos of the flash type graphics, etc., but I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of music there]; but I think you'd find CC org's list the most useful: http://creativecommons.org/legalmusicforvideos

I don't know if you've looked on YouTube but there are dozens of videos on there using ' Die Entführung aus dem Serail, K.384' - might be worth checking them to see if there are Open Source or CC versions?

Hope that's useful to you.
Cheers!
Indigo

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Poster: jasonarchive Date: Aug 26, 2012 11:31pm
Forum: audio Subject: Re: 'DWTKenInNY' Uploads to Community Audio copyrighted?

Thank you!

And all the best in your creative endeavours. :)

Jason